no contact and breakup

Will Your Ex Trick You Into Breaking No Contact? YES!

Craig (00:00):

Today we're going to be talking about, will your ex trick you into breaking no contact? So this is something that everybody thinks about. I can imagine. Right? You know, if you've made the decision that you're not going to reach out to your ex, there's going to be little things that they do here and there that make you question. Is this them trying to get me to reach out? Is this them trying to get me to break the ice? Is this thing that they're sharing on social media about me and many times, it is. We're going to talk about some of those because it's good to know that yes, your ex is thinking about you and yes, your ex will do things on social media that could be about you and there'll be vague and indirect.

Craig (01:36):

Sometimes there'll be a little bit more direct. We're going to talk about some of those after this email coaching that I had here, but I want to talk about this. Okay? Because I tell you guys this all the time, exes often do regret their decision. At some point, they miss you. They think about things they have time to reflect. And what you have to understand from their perspective is that they are anxious about you at times. Now they're not going to show that, they hide that. Okay. because they had the, the power of making the decision to end it, they don't feel as much anxiety. They don't feel as powerless as you do, but they do get anxious about the situation.

Margaret (02:20):

They've lost you. No matter how you look at it, they can't forget about you in two minutes. Yeah.

Craig (02:24):

And, and what happens is, is that they're also anxious about reaching out to you, right? And that's why I figured out many years ago about the indirect direct approach. Right? A brilliant concept. Yes. It took me a while to figure it out, but I kept seeing patterns. Right? Where somebody, what is the indirect direct approach? Well, the indirect direct approach is that somebody reaches out to you directly, but they don't say something like they miss you. Okay. And you know, I know that some people don't believe that the indirect direct approach is a real thing. Oh, it is. It absolutely is. Yeah. See. And what do you think about that, Margaret? What would you say to somebody that doesn't think that's a real concept?

Margaret (03:15):

Well, I think you have to be aware that there's an unconscious, an unconscious mind. And if you're not aware of that, then I can see why you might not believe it. And I mean, I even think people could post stuff or, or do provocative stuff that they're only half aware they did, but part of them is hoping it will provoke you to contact them.

Craig (03:35):

Exactly. And we're going to talk about those

Margaret (03:37):

In a little bit indirect, direct I was talking with somebody today who told me clearly she did an indirect direct. So I mean, she knew exactly what she was doing, but I'm not sure that everybody does. Your favorite was always, I called to see how your cat is doing.

Craig (03:52):

The cat, I missed the cat and I didn't make up "I missed the cat out of nowhere." I missed the cat, I kept seeing I missed the cat, so that's one of the things that helped me put it together. I kept seeing it over and over again. It's not about the cat. It's not about the cat. It's about missing you. And they don't have the courage to tell you that they miss you. Right. Okay. So they, they dip the toe in the water. They dip the toe in, because they're not going to say, I miss you because then they're going to, you could lash out. You could ignore them. And then they're scared. So they dip the toe in, by directly contacting you. That's the direct part. Right. They reached out with a message they've reached out. They've called you, they've texted, you, they've done some kind of direct contact with you. That has to be a direct part. Right.

Margaret (04:47):

One of the ones that I've heard lately is I got some mail for you here.

Craig (04:51):

And, and here's the tricky thing about that with mail. It could be like, maybe they really do want to give me the mail. This seems like a logical thing. That's why the indirect direct is so confusing.

Margaret (05:02):

Yes. Because yes, it's kind of meant to be confusing.

Craig (05:05):

I remember a girl a couple of years ago, it was an avoidant. And she was one of the most I guess self-aware avoidants that I had ever dealt with. And that's why she stands out to me so much is that she told me she contacted the ex about the car key, needing the car key. And then she said, it wasn't about the car key. It was because I missed him. And so we talked about it and I was really thrilled with that call because it was great hearing an avoidant, being able to put the pieces of the puzzle together. Yeah. That was great. Yeah. So that's an indirect, direct is like, could this be about that thing or is it not? And it can be tricky. Right. But the point is, is that, you know, your ex often does do things to get you, to reach out to them because, and here's why, okay. Regardless of what your ex says to you, they still want you to want them, okay. They still want you as an option, even if they don't want to be with you in that moment in time, they liked the idea of you wanting them, because that feels good. It feels good. But biologically, because humans are hardwired to connect, to stay safe, that allows them to feel safer. Right, right. Because that's one more thing, biologically, one more person that could keep them safe. Does that make sense?

Margaret (06:40):

Absolutely. When a saber tooth tiger comes along, you gotta warn each other and take care of each other.

Craig (06:46):

Right. Like, you know, a turtle has a shell or a bird can fly away. Humans have their relationships. So they don't want to give up that relationship. Right. Even, you know, even if they don't want that person, they want the option of you being there. Right. So, because they want you there on some level, sometimes they're gonna struggle with how much they want you in their life. Right. So they might do these little breadcrumbs, these little things to keep you guessing. Keep you wondering breadcrumbs is the right term. Yeah. Because on an unconscious level, they're also scared. They're scared. They have that feeling of impending doom and dying too on some level.

Margaret (07:28):

It's a loss, even if they did the breaking up. Exactly.

Craig (07:31):

So they want to keep you around on some level, at least they want you to be wanting them, not necessarily around like contacting them, but they would like the idea of knowing that you still want to be with them. So you don't want them to think that you don't want them think that you're sitting around waiting for them to come back. Right. So I find that exes willl do little things to try and, you know, spark you from, you know, contacting them or reaching out or something. Okay. And I got an email coaching that I thought may have had a couple of those things in here. So that's why I wanted to share it. Now, this was the second email coaching and I gotta be honest. I was frustrated because my first email coaching, I had really laid out a nice plan. And he made a big blunder after the first plan. And it seemed like because he had stuck to the plan, he was getting a little traction, getting a couple of these things that I'm talking about. And then he makes a big mistake. And you're going to hear about that. Okay. So he said hi coach Craig. I appreciate our previous correspondence. I need to clarify and add context. Firstly, this is about, like I said, a follow-up to his first email coaching. She started to hang out with the new guy long after move. I knew he liked her. And I think she was very emotionally upset by the breakup. Every time we went off again, she reached out to me, not the other way around. I always recognized that it was important to leave her alone after the breakup. So good started to do that. I know she has a more anxious attachment style is an insecure. And I think he provided that romantic validation that she felt for these other reasons I could no longer provide. Okay. And there could be truth to that. She could have been insecure and just started dating somebody new to fill that void, right. Or to make her feel relaxed or calm down and, and you know, deal with the breakup and not necessarily a healthy way.

Margaret (09:41):

Right, right. But many people do it.

Craig (09:44):

I have been keeping up with the attachment videos and other topics. Individuation has been my primary goal. Good. I've moved into my own place. Something my ex had long wanted for us both. But I had shot down that for financial reasons. And it turned out because of my attachment style and he got a new job. I'll say that it's a new career. Good, good for him. So here's, here's where we get tricky. Right. She has almost reached out to me in the past month. She started typing on Snapchat to me at one point around when her new boyfriend posted their relationship status. Now he screenshot of this and there was an indeed a picture where it said her name and it said typing. And so he screenshot it to prove on Snapchat that she started to see what I mean. There's almost something and I don't use Snapchat, but I'm familiar with it, I created an account many years ago, but I'm familiar a little bit with it. So now in the notifications it would show him and she probably knows this, that, Oh, he'll see that I was typing to her. Yep. So that would be a little provocative. Right. I agree with that. Then he goes on to say, she even liked one of my Instagram posts the day before that. Okay. So that's something else she's going to his profiles. He's liking something. That's a good sign. And she views my stories, usually all platforms and within an hour of posting another good sign right now, I would not tell you to reach out for any of those things. Right. But that's showing, she's looking at his stuff. She's keeping up to what he's doing.

Margaret (11:36):

Okay. So she hasn't totally lost interest by any means. All right. So there's a little bit more.

Craig (11:40):

There was even a weird situation where she was online on the game. We used to play together and I went offline to avoid temptation of inviting her. I don't know if it was a PlayStation or a computer game, whatever he didn't say, but I guess she popped up online and then, Oh, and he also said, and she got off without playing a match. So maybe she saw him online and then disconnected from logging on whatever it was. Okay. There's a little bit more, she also has created private stories on Snapchat that she obviously invited me to. I haven't watched this one is smaller, but she has a habit of deleting photos of past relationships. She hasn't done that or even changed the captions that refer to me as the best guy ever. He now we starting to look a little bit too deep right now.

Craig (12:36):

We starting to get to that point where that it's going to make them crazy. Right. Looking at these kinds of details. Even after we broke up last time, she and I kept talking about how much we loved each other and hope to work it out one day, she was even saying things like how she knew is in bold caps, things were going to get better and work out and how I was the person that made her the happiest, all good signs. Right. Nice to hear. And here's the blunder and this is a pretty big one. Okay. Then I went and tagged myself and all our old vacation photos on Facebook and weirded her out. Oh boy. Okay. Margaret, what do you think about this? Wow.

Margaret (13:26):

I think it's a pretty angry thing to do. I think he's really angry at her, which is understandable, but there's no way that was going to get her to come back to him. What was she thinking do you think?

Craig (13:39):

I, to me, it feels like he was trying to like claim territory, like a dog peeing on a fire hydrant. Right? Like this is my territory.

Margaret (13:49):

You forgot that. I own you. So I'm going to tag, like that. Yeah.

Craig (13:54):

Okay. And it's like a public display of like, look, look at me like to the other guy, like if he looks at her Facebook now he's like looking at all these pictures with his name and it just, yeah.

Margaret (14:07):

I have better peakcocktail feathers then. Yeah.

Craig (14:12):

Oh my gosh. But I, I, the minute I told this one to the new coach, cause she was here, when we discussed this one, she was just like, Oh no, because you know, it just comes across as like..,

Margaret (14:27):

Angry to me because it's going to cause her a lot of hassle, a lot of problems. It's embarrassing to her because both their names are right there. If he thought in any way that was going to get her back he wasn't thinking logically.

Craig (14:45):

No. And that's one of the struggles of being in a breakup. We, we come up with these ideas and plans and they're often backfire. If you haven't heard me suggest in a video, I wouldn't do it. Yeah. Okay. Right. If you haven't heard Margaret suggest doing it, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. Okay. And if you're on the fence, do a coaching with us.

Margaret (15:04):

It was a hostile act. That's what I'm trying to say.

Craig (15:11):

So obviously she freaked out and let's see what happens. We didn't talk until a week later when she told me that she loved me, but, and here we go was no longer in love with me. Okay. He came on way too strong.

Margaret (15:28):

Oh, he, he did something dreadful to push her away and then wondered why she went. Yeah.

Craig (15:35):

She cried. I didn't she'd posted or she noted in past breakups like this and she didn't get how I could be so common understanding while she sobbed. But it sounds like she cares about this guy.

Margaret (15:48):

It also sounds like they've broken up several times. Yeah. They're young, right? Yeah.

Craig (15:54):

They're in their early twenties. But I, I really liked the fact of the things that an ex would do. And I think she was doing those things until the tagging of the Facebook. Right, right. Yeah. All right. He said, I never could answer her, but my reaction has always been to remain calm and to talk her through it. I did again, a few days later she sent me the birthday text. I had attached to the email. It was just happy birthday with the little blowing of that, whatever that little kazoo thing is. And I responded politely and thanked her. Am I too hopeful or reading too much into things. Is a situation as hopeless as it feels sometimes. Okay. So we're going to talk about things you might want to look for, but I want to talk about, you know, yes. He is obviously reading into a lot of things here. Any clue he's obsessing over, it it's normal.

Margaret (16:51):

But then after he got a bunch of clues, he did this thing to push her away. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe he doesn't see it that way, but I'd love to know his reasoning if he thought that was going to get her back. Yep.

Craig (17:02):

Yeah. well at this point, you know, I think he had a few signs here that maybe she was thinking about him and who knows where it was going to go, but it was too early to say, and then he did this big thing, which felt like a little thing, but it was kind of like, I don't know what he was thinking. I don't think I've seen anybody do that one before. But I mean she needs time. I mean, I wouldn't say it's hopeless. I'd say that she needs time because it's, you know, it's not a horrible, horrible thing, but in the midst of a breakup, it's kinda like, it's tacky, it's uncomfortable. And you know, I think it's got, like, I told them in the first email coaching whatever's going on with this other guy, that's going to have to fall apart first.

Craig (17:45):

But you know, exes often do on social media. Now, they're not probably thinking along the lines of, I want him to break no contact. It's more like an unconscious thing of, I miss him. I'm not going to say it. I miss her. I want it. But then, you know, so they do these little tiny behaviors. Right. And these are some of the ones that I've seen on social media, particularly good. A song, maybe a band that used to like a song that used to like together, a concert that you had been together. That's, that's a big sign I think. Right. It's it meant for you probably, yeah. A meme, especially if it's like related to something that you like, if it's an interest that you have a movie, a show, something like that, or some maybe kind of related to an inside joke you've had. Yeah. That's likely directed your way. Some kind of memory, sometimes an ex will share one of their memories that you were in it or, and repost it or something like that. That's obviously more direct. Here's another big one. This is a big one that you see, actually, if they reach out to a friend or family, like one of your friends.

Margaret (19:02):

Absolutely. And that happens all the time. Yeah.

Craig (19:05):

And they'll say how's, so-and-so doing and part of that I think is did he say anything about me?

Margaret (19:12):

That's what all of it's about, right? Yeah. Did he say anything? Does he or she miss me? Yeah.

Craig (19:17):

So that's a good sign. This is one from the new coach Vicky. She suggested this one. I was hoping she would get to film in this one, but she didn't today. Unblocking you. You okay. If they unblocked you now, she said that would be the lowest of the low, but unblocking, you would be a good sign.

Margaret (19:36):

We had somebody say to me the other day, is that a good sign? Yes.

Craig (19:39):

And these are all kind of related, showing up at your work. Obviously they know you work there. That's a big thing.

Margaret (19:47):

That's also a big problem. Most people see that as very intrusive.

Craig (19:52):

Yeah. But if you're the one that was dumped, it's not, as you don't feel as intrusive. If you're there, if you're going to the person that dumped you work that's way worse. Right? Yeah. So if they show up at your work or places that you hang out or places that they know, you'll be, those are all good signs that maybe that you'll reach out or contact them. However, I do not recommend you do it. Nope. If they ended the relationship, I recommend that you let them reach out to you. Behavior escalates to serve a function. Right. I learned this many, many years ago as a behavior analyst. And so if it's escalating, as it was here, I think these little scenarios, right. It would have continued to escalate if he didn't, he had left things alone. Now who knows where it would have gone. It doesn't mean necessarily they would have gotten back together or anything. That's a huge leap in logic. I'm just saying, I think she would have reached out. Now she did reach out about the birthday, but now it's got to take some time and he's got to wait.

Margaret (21:04):

See, but just in terms of his life, I want to congratulate him. He got a new job and he moved out. So he's really gaining on the life tasks that he has right now. And that's great. That is great.

Craig (21:17):

Absolutely. and that's what we want you to do. That's our focus all the time is to help you grow from your breakup, grow emotionally, heal your attachment issues and become the best version of yourself. And that way either you retract your ex and blow them away, or you are doing much better in the dating world and you're much more attractive emotionally and as a partner, you're bringing a lot more to the table, but you know, again, I want to reiterate Margaret that a lot of times the ex who did the dumping is unconsciously thinking about you. Of course. And doesn't have the...

Margaret (22:04):

I don't know, the awareness, the wherewithal, the knowledge

Craig (22:07):

Exactly. To reach out or, or they're just not quite motivated enough to do it, but you need to let them, because they need to sit with that decision and really realize that they can lose you as well. Right. It's so important that people realize that they're going to lose you when they end a relationship that you're not going to continue to beg or, or, you know, be there just sitting around, putting your life on hold. Yep.

Margaret (22:35):

You told me to get lost. So I got lost.

Craig (22:39):

But that's why we're always focused on the personal growth because no matter what happens, you put yourself in a winning situation.

Margaret (22:46):

But it also sounds to me like this particular pair had both had a difficult time. It didn't seem like either household was friendly or supportive. And it sounds like they may have been clinging to each other. And they're probably really attached to each other, even though all of the tasks of the twenties have gotten to them now. And it's hard to do,

Craig (23:06):

But he's doing a great job. As you said,

Margaret (23:09):

Yes, he's doing what his life tasks are, which are to separate from your family to move up. And he got a new job.

Craig (23:15):

He's going to look a lot more attractive to her when she does come back around again. I, I really suspect, you know, if she has several months and it falls apart with the new guy that she could reach out again, you know, three or four months that that's the vibe I get from this situation. But you know, who knows what's gonna happen in the future.

Margaret (23:34):

Three or four months, it can be five or six months, but yeah, I think they were very important to each other.

Craig (23:41):

Yeah. But just know that, you know, your ex may try and provoke you with little things to reach out to them. But I think, and I stand by this, you should let them reach out first and say made the decision to end the relationship.

Margaret (23:58):

You're right. I do. Okay. Thank you.

Craig (24:01):

All right. So hopefully you found this video helpful.

Margaret (24:04):

Can I make a comment? I just want to make another comment on direct indirect. Now I refer to commercials sometimes because I know everybody who watches TV sees them, but there's a wonderful one. It's a progressive ad with flow and Bigfoot. Okay. And they're having a rather pleasant chat and big of course has been spotted a couple of times. And he says to flow, maybe part of me wanted to be seen. Yes. There is an unconscious and bigfoot knows it.

Craig (24:35):

And now you do too.

If I Leave My Ex Alone, Will They Miss Me?

Craig  (00:00):

Today we're going to be talking about if I leave my ex alone, will they miss me? So Margaret, this is a topic that comes up for me, probably on a daily basis or almost a daily basis. Several times a week, at least. But I understand why it's such a big topic. And so we're going to talk about this today because it's so terrifying, so terrifying to go through a breakup and just feel like your ex isn't going to miss you. And we're going to talk about why and what your ex is going through. And some of the things they might be thinking of feeling as well, as long as, and yourself, because I found it to be so helpful to understand what's going on within ourself during a breakup. Absolutely. Right. Uso, you know, people say to me all the time, do you think they're gonna think about me? Do you think they're going to miss me? And you know, obviously we're dealing with, you know, emotions and we're dealing with a connection we're dealing with love, we're dealing with attachment, you know, and I don't think there's anything more powerful than attachment. And it's hard wired into us. That's the way we are men as human beings is to form a bond, even with our mother pre-birth but it really gets to get to that what three month mark where we really start to bond and have a powerful attachment with them. And that isn't something that you have to talk about or think about it's just, just happens. It's natural. It's normal. Right. So,uI understand that. It's so scary to think about your ex, not thinking about you and letting them go and not reaching out to them that we constantly feel like we have to do something to repair that connection.

Margaret (02:50):

Okay. And not only that, we get hormones that tell us stuff that's right. Mother nature always wants us to propagate. And when A relationship ends, mother nature says, Oh, no kids from these two and sends you more hormones to go get them back.

Craig  (03:08):

So, you know, obviously one of the things that is incredibly challenging is the obsessive thoughts, right? We're dealing with the obsessive thoughts, almost nonstop, and it feels like this almost like you're trapped in this endless cycle of obsessive thoughts, and it's just, you just can't turn them off. And there's a biological reason behind that. And that is if you're a child, like look at, if you're a child and you're disconnected from your parents, you wander off too far, your brain has you go back to them cause you've, you could die. You could literally die. Right? So that's, what's going on there. It's a very similar thing that you experienced as a child wander too far away from your parents. You're gonna die. And so that's why you're going through those obsessive thoughts. But, and I'm going to talk about how this affects your ex as well in a minute. But I want you to understand, because, you know, I remember when I first started researching breakups years ago, I stumbled across a video that talked about death and how we feel like we're dying. And that's why we have these obsessive thoughts. And then it started to really hit me, like, no wonder why this is so painful. I feel like I'm dying because your brain is telling you don't disconnect from that person because you could die.

Margaret (04:35):

And let's go back to our old friend that saber tooth tiger. Okay. And remember that in our evolutionary old days if we got separated from mom, we did probably become somebody's lunch, you know? So it's not crazy. It's it's in a way adaptive.

Craig  (04:53):

Exactly. Yeah. It's, it's, it's very intertwined with our survival. And so that's why so many of you guys are driving past your ex's house. You are calling their job, you're driving past their job. You're calling their, their friends, their family, you're stalking their social media. You need to be honest with yourself on that. You're doing it because so many guys are not going to admit it, but yeah, you really are doing or have done it. And it's because you're desperately feeling like if you don't do it, you're going to die without them.

Margaret (05:28):

But there's a cognitive piece to it too. This is somebody you've been with, you know, for some period of time, enough to classify it as a breakup and obviously that person has said loving things to you and you have said loving things to them. And then all of a sudden they walk away from you and it makes no logical sense. Right? Emotions don't always make logical sense, but there is some logical sense here. How could the person, you know, two months ago told me I was the best thing in the entire universe walk away from me even two days ago. Even two days ago. Yeah.

Craig  (06:05):

Yeah. And I have an email coaching that we'll get to in another video, if we have some time today about something that happened to somebody just like that. But you know, Margaret we're in this obsessive thinking of, are they going to come back? Are they going to miss me? Are they going to think about me, Margaret? What do you think?

Margaret (06:25):

Well, I think they are going to miss you. And they are going to think about you. You can't be with someone on an intimate level and not have some level of attachment. Yes. Okay. So yes, they are going to think about you. Yes. In the beginning, they're going to feel relieved because they've finally done the breakup, but they're going to miss you. They're going to think about you. And they're going to wonder if they made the right decision. That's true.

Craig  (06:48):

Right. But it takes time. Okay. We know that you're experiencing so much physical pain that it's unbearable. I I've been there. Yeah. That's what propelled me to want to learn this stuff. So well is what I went through with my own breakups in the past. And you know, that's why I can relate with you guys because I know how horrible it is and Margaret was there for me during that time. And you know, it's so scary to think, is this person thinking about me? If I leave them alone, if I stop reaching out, if I go, no contact, is that it? Are we done? Are they just going to be out of sight, out of mind?

Margaret (07:25):

Right back in the old days, we had loved letters to save, but now it all takes, takes place electronically. And you can't even, they used to joke about people having an old trunk full of love letters. You know, we don't even have those anymore. So you can't hold on to them.

Craig  (07:40):

Yeah. Unless you have like text messages now, or,

Margaret (07:43):

And the other thing you might have is pictures. And I really think that when you're dealing with any loss, it's useful to look at a picture of that person. Now it might sound like it's going to pour salt in the wound, but I guarantee no, you know, you look at the person's picture and you say, I'm sad. I'm sad about all of this. And that's a very healthy way to go. Yeah. You know?

Craig  (08:05):

Yeah. It's, it's, it is because you have to kind of own it. And you know, that brings up for me. I'm thinking, calling up the object that so many of the people that we're dealing with have had attachment issues and they can't picture somebody, you know, that, you know what I mean?

Margaret (08:25):

And just let me repeat that theory in a couple of sentences, talking about if things work correctly and we are mother is available and we attach and all those wonderful things happen. Eventually we begin to develop a picture of mom that we can hold in our memory, in our head, when mom is not there.

Craig  (08:46):

Up their voice, calling up them talking to us.

Margaret (08:50):

And so forth. And if you can call it, the object, life is so much easier. You can call it up to soothe yourself, or you can call it up if you have to grieve. Yeah. Okay. And I remember essentially being taught by a client when I suggested that he needed to grieve some of the people in his family, he said, I'll have to bring in the family album only then did it dawn on me, that it was easier for him to do it when he could see the pictures, cause he couldn't really call up the object. You know? So it was a wonderful thing. I, I did family albums ever after. No, I thank him if he's out there somewhere.

Craig  (09:27):

Yeah. So what happens is, you know, that inability or that struggle to call somebody up makes us feel like they're going to forget us because in a way we're forgetting them, we're forgetting the sound of their voice. We're forgetting how they talked to us what they were saying to us, what they told us. And so we are afraid that they're doing the same thing that we're struggling with. Absolutely. Right. It's almost like projected.

Margaret (09:51):

Yeah. And is it easier to put somebody out of your mind? Yeah. You can try good luck because those obsessive thoughts will come right back. You miss me. I know you do. I know you miss me. What are the other things I hear often is, does this mean they never loved me? No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't at all. And I think that most people break up for whatever reasons they break up. But that at one time when you were together, they said they loved you and they meant it. Oh, absolutely. Okay. People often think there are reasons they have to break up. Sometimes they don't even want to.

Craig  (10:27):

Yup. But you know what happens next is that, you know, your ex has made a decision to end the relationship to move forward. And at that point they really are fairly confident with their decision. They're not always a hundred percent and every situation is very different. Let me put it out there. There are situations that are so different throughout my day that, you know, we're trying to talk in general terms to get you to understand that, yes, in most of the cases they are going to think about you and miss you right off the bat. But there will be situations that your ex is so frustrated or maybe fed up with you or the situation that they're at that point. They're like, I don't want to deal with it. I don't want to think about it, but they can't turn it off forever.

Margaret (11:13):

No, they can't. They can delay it, but they can't turn it off forever. And how many times do we hear tha they sign up on six dating sites, you know, two days later to distract.

Craig  (11:24):

That's exactly it. And you know, what we start doing at that point is we're looking at our behavior and we're starting to beat ourselves up of, Oh my gosh, I couldn't leave them alone. I was, I was pushing, I was shoving them to, to give, to talk to me, to work and out. And we start to feel really bad about that because we realized that we've been demanding and then our ex just gets cold ice cold. Yes. And so when they're at this point, they're not going to act like they're ever going to miss you. They're not going to budge because they don't want you to continue harassing them. So they got to put that wall up. Right. So that's why I'm trying to get you to see is that the process of leading up to this point is they're not going to act like they're missing you or thinking about you because if they do, you're just gonna pursue them like a like an awful salesman. Like you're just interacting like a persistent salesman that won't let the person think about things. Right? So at this point, you, you know, you gotta go no contact, you know, and some of you get there sooner than others. I get that. And you know, when you go no contact, it's actually a really powerful thing to do. Yes, it is. Because your ex, at that point, it's just like, Ugh, they're constantly badgering me reaching out. And so there's no fear there, there, there's no sense of like, am I making a mistake? Am I going to miss this person? Cause they're not missing you at that point. No, at the moment. They're really, and they're like, finally,

Margaret (13:12):

They're leaving me alone. Right. Finally, I have space. We all need space. That's what we hear a great deal. I need space. That's right. Finally, I have my space while you think all you want and your space. Yeah.

Craig  (13:21):

Yeah. But as you, once you stop forward momentum, that is a complete change of dynamics. You're no longer trying to be a used Carlson car salesman. You're no longer trying to force them into something they're not wanting to do. Now. They actually have to sit with a decision of, Hmm, am I really going to want to live without this person? Right. At first they think you're still going to reach out maybe in a couple of days or a week. But as time goes on, they don't stop thinking about you the way they think about you. And the situation changes. They go from feeling angry and frustrated and walls up and defensive to, Hmm. Maybe I am making a mistake. Maybe I was overreacting. Maybe the things that were bothering me, then weren't so bad, but it takes time to get there.

Margaret (14:25):

And that's the thing I had somebody say to me today, it's been four weeks. I mean, we're talking, you know, several months.

Craig  (14:35):

Exactly. That's typical, depending upon the situation, why they wanted to end things. But you know, once you have stopped the forward momentum, that creates space. And the more time that goes, the more space that is created, the more they are going to wonder or start to believe. Well, I actually am never going to hear from this person again. And in that space, that's when they start to feel like they've been dumped in a sense right now, sometimes you'll have people that will do breadcrumbs. And every once in a while, they'll reach out and you know, we don't want you to chase them. No, we don't want you to be eager with these people. But you know, like I said, this is so general, oftentimes we're in situations where we don't hear from our ex for months at a time, and we don't want you to ignore them. If your ex is breadcrumbing you and reaching out to you occasionally saying, you know, I mean, sometimes you'll have an avoidant that's reaching out. You know, every couple of days at that point, you don't want to, you know, act like you're available or too interested in them. You know, we want you to be a challenge. Right, right. We don't want anybody to think that you're easily available, but we don't want you to ignore them either. Right. So if you are in a breadcrumbing situation, you're going to do it differently obviously than a situation where you haven't heard from your ex.

Margaret (16:12):

Or the three o'clock in the morning or the drunk call. Don't put up with that.

Craig  (16:17):

Exactly. But I don't want people to get confused because there's a big difference with a breakup. When somebody hasn't reached out to you in four months and ignoring them versus you, haven't heard from your ex in two days and they're reaching out every three days and they're bread crumbing. You, that's a very different kind of breakup. Okay. But more often than that, not the breakup is you haven't heard from your ex for three, four months.

Margaret (16:47):

And the normal response, the normal human response to loss is grief. Okay. And you can put grief off, but you cannot make it go away. And we find out that people don't last a year without getting into that grief stage. Okay. So grief is going to come upon them and they go into, remember you and they're going to be sad. They can delay it for a while. And then eventually it's going to catch up with

Craig  (17:16):

That's a good point. Yeah. it does catch up with them. And if they try going from relationship to relationship, it's just going to be unhealthy. And the losses are just going to amount and they're just going to continue the cycle of unhealthy relationships

Margaret (17:33):

And trying not to grieve.

Craig  (17:34):

Yeah. which is why we are always pushing and advocating for mental health and growing and working through your issues. It's so critical to turning it around once your ex does reach out again. But you know, there are so many different types of situations. That's why I say in the video, every relationship is different. Every breakup is different because throughout all day long, there are very different scenarios that play out on why people break up how they broke up, what happened, why it happened, right? Attachment styles, mental health issues, all of those things,

Margaret (18:16):

The whole package, we're all a whole package, but I've, I've often heard. I've watched him put things out of his head. He can put things out of his head and never think about them again. No, he can't. He lives on the planet with our shared humanity. You know, eventually it's going to catch up with him. He does have feelings or you wouldn't have been with him. Yes.

Craig  (18:33):

So in time your ex does miss you. And they think about those good things. They think about those good times you've had together. They think about the pros of the relationship. They think about the cons to the relationship. And your goal is to work on those things that when they come back, you're not doing those mistakes or you're trying to minimize those mistakes. So they are more willing to try and give it another go. Right? That's the things that they were so frustrated with. Won't be there as intense as they were before. If you can try to minimize those problems, right. Then things will be easier for them. They'll be happier. And, but it takes real work to get to that place. Right. But, you know, leaving them alone is absolutely critical to getting them to miss you.

Margaret (19:32):

Otherwise, it's like a fix for an addict. Okay. If they can call you, get a quick response or if you call them, then they start grieving. You don't want to interrupt the process.

Craig  (19:43):

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. You want them to miss you, you want them to think about you. They, you want them to remember all those good times and people will talk about the fading effect bias. Have you heard about that?

Margaret (19:56):

No. What is the fading effects? I might have it, is it like COVID,

Craig  (20:01):

It might be you know, I haven't found a lot of good research on it. That's why we haven't talked about it too much in videos where supposedly in time, you start to forget about the bad things and remember the good, but the research I've seen isn't, you know, that significant yeah.

Margaret (20:21):

That happens in domestic violence cases. Oftentimes I'd have to research that. Which I will do if it's, if it's a topic of interest. Yeah.

Craig  (20:30):

Yeah. But somebody had commented on the video today about the fading affect bias. So I thought I'd bring it up real quick.

Margaret (20:37):

You remember the good times instead of the bad ones? Yeah. That probably is somewhat true. Yeah.

Craig  (20:42):

There's, I'm sure there's some truth to it, but the research is more about from what I was about specific amount of days and stuff like that. But what I had seen when I had researched it years ago, I wasn't thoroughly impressed. So maybe that's something you could look into in your research and your studies. But I, I want everybody to know. It's so important that even though your ex is just steadfast in their decision of, I'm never going to give you another chance. I'm never going to work it out with you. That changes over time. Okay.

Margaret (21:21):

Yeah. They will tell me the last hurtful thing that the ex says yes. At which, in which case I immediately quote you and say, Craig reminds us all that feelings change

Craig  (21:33):

Feelings change. But it takes time for those feelings to change and you've gotta be willing and you gotta be strong to leave them alone to allow that for them to actually miss you think about it. If you miss somebody time has had to occur and space has had to occur. You don't miss somebody when they're in front of you. Right. I don't miss Margaret when she's here right next to me.

Margaret (22:02):

But you miss me all week when I'm not exactly.

Craig  (22:05):

If we're not seeing each other or filming videos or whatnot. Right. Or my friends that I don't get to see you, you miss them when you have space and time away. And so yes, they will miss you. Even though they looked upset and angry and hurt and they had their wall up and they looked like they were never going to change their mind. That can change over time. Right. And we, we know that you guys need to hear this all the time because it's so scary what you're going through. And that's why we're always bringing it up and sharing different experiences that we've had. Uwhen we get email success stories, which we get all the time and,uwe can't share them all quite honestly. But if you give your time to your ex, if you give them space, they will miss you. They will think about you. They can't shut off that part of their brain

Margaret (23:02):

For any length of time. They can, they can do it briefly, but it, yeah, it will eventually come back and say, hi, I'm still here. Like all unresolved issues do. Yeah. Okay.

Craig  (23:12):

And when people tell you, they love you, you know, I think on some level they love you forever.

Margaret (23:18):

Oh yeah. I think so too. Yeah. I think that's true. And remember, what's going to happen to the minute you are ready to move on. Yeah,

Craig  (23:27):

Exactly. Right. Yeah. We see that all the time. In fact, I had a comment today. I think it was on my Instagram from somebody who said, the minute I was ready to move on, they came back. They sensed the disturbance in the force.

Margaret (23:38):

Right. And don't forget that we think they're not in touch. They've gone. They've absolutely blocked us out. And then as soon as we're ready to move on, they reach out. Yeah. Which says that the process has gone on for those several months. And remember we live in a world of instant and we've lost our sense of process. Oftentimes we fall in love too fast. And Craig and I are always saying, slow down, don't move too fast. And, you know, we fall into love too fast. And sometimes we fall out of love real slowly, you know, slow is better on both ends.

Craig  (24:13):

Yeah. So yes, if you leave your ex alone and give them time, they will miss you. They will start to remember the good times, the experiences you shared, those moments you had, the connection you had, and you just have to let them do that on their terms, which is so difficult. We know, but they're not going to forget you in that time. They're just not right. Right. Okay. Hopefully you found this helpful.

I'm Scared My Ex Will Find Someone Better (While I'm In No Contact)

Craig (00:00):

Today we're going to talk about, I'm scared my ex will find someone better than me while I'm in no contact.

Margaret (00:48):

What a terrible fear.

Craig (00:50):

This is a big fear. Margaret. I think this is one of the underlying fears that we all have going through a breakup is that if I leave this person alone and they start dating again, everybody's going to want them the way that I want them.

Margaret (01:06):

I hadn't thought about it quite like that. Okay. that makes perfect sense. Yeah. Everybody's going to want them,

Craig (01:12):

We feel like, because we value that person so highly that everybody that meets them is going to as well. Well, that's a very real fear. I mean, it's possible. We can't tell people that can't or doesn't happen and we're not going to tell you that because it can happen. Right. It is a very real fear and we all have to kind of, you know, live with that and, and kind of work through it. And today I got a little email that I thought would be helpful because I do think it's such a powerful thing that it, it, it just impacts everybody

Margaret (01:52):

What an awful feeling. I'm not good enough. Yes it is.

Craig (01:56):

And when that person has left, you, it's like, it's kind of like, well, I'm not good enough. Cause if I was, they wouldn't have left me. Yep. So it's not easy to work through that. So I think we can talk about that, but I just wanted to share a quick email. It said, hi, coach Craig and Margaret. My name is Ryan and I'm 27 years old. And my girlfriend is 26. I stumbled across your channel after about a month and a half ago and have been utterly blown away by your content. Good. Thank you so much. My girlfriend left me after a three-year relationship. Wow. We had been living together for about a year and a half. I'm really having a hard time because she's the best girl I've ever known. I really don't think I'll ever meet someone that I'll have that kind of connection with again, Margaret, that's a big thing that a lot of people say,

Margaret (02:46):

Yes it is. And it's likely untrue. There isn't just one person out there for us. There are probably a few. But I, I feel terrible that he feels that way. Yes.

Craig (03:00):

And I felt that way before where you just you're just like this connection, how, you know, it's just so like incredibly shocking that the other person can walk away. Even if there were points where you were ready to walk away and you were frustrated, you were like, well, I love them enough to work through it.

Margaret (03:18):

They aren't there because I'm not good enough. Yeah.

Craig (03:21):

But I think that feeling of I'm so scared, I'm never going to find somebody like this again.

Margaret (03:27):

I felt like I had found the one. Yeah. Yup.

Craig (03:30):

And that makes that's what makes the breakup so hard for so many of us. Let me go on. Okay. I thought she would never leave. Well there we have it. I just wish she had given me another chance to show her how I've changed. And I've been trying. After watching your videos, I realized my childhood wasn't as good as I thought it had been. A lot of people come to us and say that

Margaret (03:55):

Common, I'll start with people. How was growing up? Oh, good. Can you tell me more? It turns out to be a disaster. Yep. Yep.

Craig (04:02):

And I hear it too. My father was very avoidant and rarely made time for anyone in the family. My mom and him would argue all the often little did I realize I had taken on a lot of his negative traits.

Margaret (04:18):

There's the deal

Craig (04:20):

It happens a lot. We, we unconsciously it's not taking take on those patterns and behaviors and sometimes we're like, wait, did, did my father just come in the room? And it would just came out of your mouth, right? Yeah.

Margaret (04:34):

Yeah. And that's wonderful if the awareness comes to you it sounds like this guy's just figuring it out. Yup. All right.

Craig (04:42):

Now that I've had a lot of time on my hands. I've been thinking about all the complaints my ex had. I used to spend my time watching TV or playing video games. Well, it's interesting.

Margaret (04:53):

Yeah, he was being avoidant. Just like his dad. Yeah.

Craig (04:57):

I was disconnected blunt, rude and condescending at times I kind of only thought about my own perspective and really didn't care about how I affected my girlfriend's mood. Just like his dad probably.

Margaret (05:14):

But he's owning it. God love him. Yeah.

Craig (05:17):

In many ways it was just like my parents' relationship. So he started to see,

Margaret (05:22):

You know, we say it often that unless we're aware, we tend to repeat what we grew up with. Whether or not it's what we want. Okay. So poor Ryan. He just got bowled over with all this all at once. Yeah.

Craig (05:35):

I'm just realizing how bad I was in the relationship. I honestly didn't know where to start. So I got your workbooks. Good. I was reluctant, but they are helping me a lot. Thank you. I wish I had found you sooner. I really feel like I'm learning and changing to be better. My biggest fear is that it will be too late. That while I'm in no contact, she will find someone better. I was hoping you and coach Margaret could talk about it. I'll be signing up for a coaching soon. Okay. So yes, Margaret, the big fear it's too late and that they're going to find somebody better.

Margaret (06:23):

And I see he gave us very concrete reasons of what would be better. What he's, she's going to find somebody who doesn't spend all their time watching TV or playing video games and who's going to pay more attention to her.

Craig (06:36):

Yes. And so I would say to you that you don't know what's going to happen. No, I always enter a situation like this. If me personally, with I'm going to do everything in my power to put myself in the best position to turn this around. Right. And that means obsessing on the personal growth. Because if you do either, she's going to come back and you're going to show her these changes or she doesn't come back and you're still going to truly change who you are and have much better relationship.

Margaret (07:09):

Yes. Then any relationship you have in the future will likely be better, but what a terrible way to feel all at once powerless, right? Yeah. Totally powerless.

Craig (07:18):

And I think that's where he gets his power back here. Is that focusing on the changing and what he can control. Right.

Margaret (07:26):

But also let me point out it's three years. So also obviously something went right. If she stayed with you for three years,

Craig (07:35):

That's a good point. Yeah. And oftentimes, you know, that person loves you and cares about you enough to where they, once they have time to reflect on things and really process things that they can think, well, I know he wasn't perfect, but I do miss him. Right. It just takes time to get there

Margaret (07:55):

And it can take months and people will say, well, it's already been three weeks now. See, it takes months.

Craig (08:01):

Usually does take months

Margaret (08:04):

Because the person has to adjust to being away from you first they're relieved. Then they start to feel more and more sad. And you know, after six months or seven months or eight months, it may hit them. I talked to a gentleman just recently this week who explained to me that he had been in a relationship and he didn't know how attached he was. He broke it off. And then 10 months later he got hit with a ton of bricks that he missed her terribly. Yep.

Craig (08:35):

Yeah. I talked to a guy today who had done the breaking up. I figured I talked to two guys today, one that had done the breaking up and then about nine months later, it hit him that what was going on. And I talked to another guy that he's having a hard time moving on from a breakup two years ago. Yeah. So you know, it takes time.

Margaret (08:59):

And if you haven't heard from your partner for six months, give it a year.

Craig (09:04):

It doesn't mean we want you to put your life on hold. No, not at all. We just, it doesn't mean that because it's been that amount of time that they can't come back again. I have people that come back after years now, we're not saying, put your life on hold and do anything like that. We want you to grow. We want you to heal. We want you to change and see how the future goes. But you know, it's always scary that your partner's going to find somebody better right away.

Margaret (09:31):

Absolutely. Absolutely. But I still say she was with you for three years. So there must have been something that worked. I agree. Yeah.

Craig (09:39):

And so keep that in mind and stay focused on the personal growth. Right. Okay. Because either she's going to come back or you're going to find somebody that's a better fit for you and you don't want to mess up. Imagine having that amazing connection with somebody new and then you make the same mistakes again. Yeah.

Margaret (09:58):

You don't want to do that.

Craig (10:00):

Then you're really going to beat yourself up because I mean, think about how many times, Margaret, somebody says, I didn't think my ex was coming back. I moved on, I stopped doing the work. My ex came back. I blew it. Yeah.

Margaret (10:13):

And I was the same guy she had left or the same woman he had left. Yeah. That always, that's the one set for us.

Craig (10:19):

That's the one thing that really gets me that I'm like, ah, that's how I try and tell you guys act like you're going to get one more chance. If you keep that attitude, you're going to be ready.

Margaret (10:32):

And I have to hand it to Ryan. He figured this out all at once. It sounds like to me and was just bowled over. But he's describing it to us and he's owning. It

Craig (10:43):

Said he had a lot of time on his hands. So he's probably watching our videos all day.

Margaret (10:48):

Well, so if you're ready to go to therapy, Ryan, I think you'll do just fine because you owned it and you were able to put words to it. And the work books are a great place to start too.

Craig (10:59):

Absolutely. And he is, he already started there. So that's great. There's one of the thing that I want to say your ex not reaching out to you for several months or months on end is not necessarily a bad thing. You might need that amount of time to heal and grow before you actually have a real chance of repairing what that person and that's what people don't think about. They think I just want them back right now. But the reality is, is that personal growth takes time and effort. And so if your ex came back in three weeks or a month, or even several months, you might just go right back to that.

Margaret (11:39):

The old behavior. And I mean, it's a very hard way to learn, but it is often helpful in the long run.

Craig (11:45):

Yeah. So use that to keep perspective of, okay, this is another day that I can improve myself is another day that I can figure out how I'm going to improve my relationships, how I'm going to improve, what are my weaknesses? How can I improve it? Look at your other relationships before this current ex is there a pattern?

Margaret (12:06):

Yes. and don't beat yourself up day after day. It's not helpful. And you need the energy to put into your healing and your growing. Yep. Okay. Absolutely. And like I say, you're owning it, which is half the battle you're on the right path. Absolutely.

Craig (12:26):

Have the mindset of, I'm going to have one opportunity. Am I going to be ready? And then you're going to put yourself in a much better position to show her that you are her best option, that there's not going to be somebody that's going to be as invested as great of a partner. Being able to bring that real joy into your life that a relationship can really do. Right? Right. So stay motivated and commit yourself to personal growth. You can't go wrong. Sometimes you need the ex as motivation. Some of you don't, but whatever your motivation is, just use it.

Margaret (13:07):

Absolutely. And call us when you don't know what else to do.

Craig (13:12):

That's what we're here for as well. Absolutely.

My Ex Couldn't Take No Contact Any Longer

Craig (00:00):

Today we're going to be talking about my ex couldn't take no contact any longer. Isn't that wonderful? Oh, it sure is. You know, you guys are thinking the same thing, right? I can't take no contact any longer, right? When you're going no contact and you're leaving your ex alone. It's one of the hardest things that you have to do. And I had a nice discussion with somebody about that recently, who has a success story, and she's going to be writing me an email about what it was like for her to do no contact. But when you're not reaching out to your ex anymore, it's awful because now you feel just terrified that they're never going to reach out again.

Margaret (01:24):

And that they'll forget about you. Yes.

Craig (01:26):

Right? Which they do not. No, they don't, but we know why you feel like that. We understand why you feel like that. I felt like that, that you just think that the person's going to move on and it's so difficult to refrain from wanting to reach out, wanting to repair things, contacting them through any way possible. Even through friends and family, it's awful.

Margaret (01:53):

Both of which have to be not done. Don't do that. It'll get you in trouble.

Craig (01:59):

But we understand that when you're in no contact, it feels like an eternity. Every single day feels like an eternity. Every second of the day, you want to check your phone. I've been there. That's why I understand it so well. Cause I have been in that situation and I hated it. It's just the worst. And you watch your phone all day. That's all you do. Every time you look at it, you're just like, Ugh. Or every time it goes off, you're hoping that it's them. Right. That's so hard. But believe it or not, your ex isn't always certain about their decision. Even at the time that they make it. Now, a lot of the times they are certain in that moment in time, but that can change, right? Yes. Feelings can change. And you got to understand that it's hard to know sometimes what your ex is going through thinking or feeling for their situation with you. Cause it can vary based upon what happened in your relationship obviously. But you know, it would be easier for them if you were continuing to reach out when you go no contact and you no longer reach out to them, it makes it harder for them.

Margaret (03:19):

Yes it does. Yeah.

Craig (03:21):

Because they would like to know that you still want to be with them because then that option is there for them. And they don't feel so anxious about their decision. But when you choose to stop reaching out, that puts the pressure on them where they're wondering if you're going to reach out. But then they think, well, are they moving on?,

Margaret (03:45):

And they wonder if you're moving on. So you're kind of giving them back a dose of their own medicine.

Craig (03:50):

Exactly. But oftentimes no contact or when you're not reaching out to them is very difficult for them too. And sometimes they'll put posts up that you know, are about you, but you don't reach out. Sometimes they'll put posts that are implying about you. Right. And they're hoping that you're going to reach out to them because in that moment, maybe they're feeling some vulnerability or some confusion, but you know, you want them to reach out to make the first move.

Margaret (04:26):

Right. Right. The breakup, wasn't your idea of the ball's in their court.

Craig (04:29):

Exactly. So I've got a good email success story today and we haven't done a success story in awhile. No, but they remembered that we like to get success stories and share them with you guys,

Margaret (04:41):

Please, everyone. Remember we love to hear success stories. Absolutely.

Craig (04:45):

So when you have your success story, regardless of what it is with your ex, make sure you email me on the website. Okay. And you know, this is a really good one that I thought people would like to hear. So they said, well, coach Craig, I've been wanting to type this awhile now. Life's been busy. Then I remembered how you said you like to receive the success stories as well. On some of your videos. I spent almost five months going day in and day out in a scary haze after a breakup of over seven years, I was utterly lost in it. In every way I came across your videos. And most, every piece of advice I received from your chat or from your wisdom and knowledge on your channel, helped me get my ex back using no contact. Wow. By far the hardest thing I've ever had to do, considering the woman I lost, I always felt she was my soulmate. Somehow I still do after all this. Not one single text call email, nothing never once. Luckily I found you soon enough. I was determined. But after five months of no contact, she had found it to be almost impossible not to come to me wondering why things went no contact and realized what she had lost when we separated. That is big.

Margaret (06:31):

So she was expecting continued contact. Isn't that interesting?

Craig (06:35):

This is what we try and get you guys to see here. Right? She found it almost impossible not to go to him. And she was wondering why things had gone no contact. In other words, why he stopped reaching out,

Margaret (06:49):

You broke up with me

Craig (06:51):

And realized what she had lost and that's what we want your ex to go through. And that's why we stress the importance of working on yourself in that time. Right. That is the most critical thing because you don't know when they're going to reach out, they could reach out after a month, they could reach out after five months in this case, it could be a year later. Now we don't want you to put your life on hold, but we want you to grow in that time. So when they do reach out, you blow them away. Yeah. And I had a guy this week who was so depressed, just absolutely depressed. I think it was our third call together. And I got on him. I'm like, you've got to stay motivated because you don't know what's going to happen. After the first call, he, I think he's got a little bit more motivated than he kind of dropped. And then our most recent call. He's like, no, after our last call I've been working harder. Okay. So I quizzed him on some certain areas that I had told them to work on and he did better. And I'm like, keep going. You got to get yourself in the right position.

Margaret (08:00):

Because if she comes back and you're just the same, you were as you were when she left. Yeah.

Craig (08:04):

Yeah. But he's working really hard. Good for him. So I'm really proud of him. All right. Let me go on, to put then feelings into words is unexplainable. You're exceptional at what you do. And I can't express enough on how learning my attachment and reworking myself from inside out has changed my view on myself in a relationship. I couldn't afford coaching, but after much hard work done to myself after listening to so many videos and building myself up to that next level. And fortunately my ex had surprisingly done work on herself.

Margaret (08:52):

Wow. How wonderful.

Craig (08:54):

That is great. Through therapy, we were able to come to our senses and move forward with progress in learning and accepting each other for everything we are and are not. Sometimes I think back on the nights of laying there all night, trying to make sense of your videos and how it would work for me. Then it did, bam, late night call. She couldn't take it any longer

Margaret (09:28):

Great. He outlasted her

Craig (09:31):

And we worked it out from there. I am grateful to have found you. Thank you, coach Craig. You really have helped me change my life and relationship for the all around better. If it wasn't for these videos, I don't know how I would've made it through some of those long nights. That's the truth. You're the best at what you do. Stay positive. Add another success story to your list, coach. Thank you so much for sharing that. It's so encouraging to see you guys having success stories, hearing your guys' success stories and being able to share them.

Margaret (10:11):

So he did it himself just by watching the video. Wow. Yeah. That's great. Good for you.

Craig (10:17):

And there's well over 800 videos at this point and plenty more in the works.

Margaret (10:24):

I've heard that recently that somebody had counted them. Yeah.

Craig (10:28):

Well I know we've had certain people that we've worked with that have literally shown me that they've done all the videos. They literally showed me. Cause if you pull up your YouTube it shows the red bar on the bottom when you watched the video. Actually, I will let you know that my next project I have two people in mind that have worked with me quite a bit over the years. This one is one of them. Cause I know she's done the work. She is going to be previewing the project first to get an approval, to give me an approval and the new coach and approval and you to see it, to give us feedback,

Margaret (11:10):

That'd be wonderful. It is what I've seen of. It is absolutely wonderful. We will put the finishing touches on it.

Craig (11:16):

Yup. And by the time you guys see this video, it will probably be fairly close to being done. It's so exciting. But I have several people that are some of my best students that are going to look at it and preview it first because I want to make sure that you guys absolutely love what we have here. And I I'm fairly convinced that you will. But I just want to hear it from people that I know who have done absolutely tremendous amounts of work. So this is a great success story. And even though your situation feels hopeless, it doesn't mean that is one of the things that's the hardest to understand about being in no contact is that there can and will be a day for many of you where your ex does reach out again, despite going months of feeling hopeless and thinking they're never going to reach out, they often do. I mean, this example was five moths.

Margaret (12:16):

And this guy's partner was very honest with us, for which we thank her on saying she didn't really expect the no contact. She broke up, but she didn't expect the no contact. Yeah,

Craig (12:26):

Yeah, yeah. And you know, you guys have just got to stay working on yourself in this time. We know it's not easy when you're anxious and you're depressed. But the worst thing that can happen is that one day they pick up the phone, they want to see you, you get in front of them and you haven't changed and they see right through it

Margaret (12:47):

They'll see right through it. Right. Exactly. Particularly if they've changed.

Craig (12:54):

So you know, stay motivated. You never know what's going to happen either way. You're going to be a success story either. They're going to reach out and you'll have another chance with it or you're going to go on to meet and date amazing people with all this stuff that, you know, and you'll blow them away. Right, right. Right. Well, we'll see, you know, each person is meant to have their own destiny or future and whatever yours may be, you know, just make sure that it's great. Right, right. By doing the work.

Margaret (13:23):

And there's almost nothing that can't be changed if you're willing to work at it.

Craig (13:29):

Absolutely. And you can so great success story. Thank you for sharing it. And when you get yours, be sure to email me.